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==Discussion of fragment 1. (Wralda’s breath)== | ==Discussion of fragment 1. (Wralda’s breath)== | ||
Sandbach's erroneous interpretation of fragment 1 (as translated by Ottema) has led to a persistent misunderstanding among some readers. This misunderstanding will be cleared once and for all below. | Sandbach's erroneous interpretation of fragment 1 (as translated by Ottema) has led to a persistent misunderstanding among some readers. This misunderstanding will be cleared once and for all below. | ||
If Sandbach’s change of the text (he replaced ''these/they'' by ''the last'', referring to Frya alone) was correct, this would imply that only Frya’s descendants (''tha mænneska/ men'') were considered human. Also, the original would have been specific: <span class="fryas">SPISDE WR-ALDA <u>FRYA</u> MITH SINA ÁDAMA</span> (''Wralda fed <u>Frya</u> with his breath''). Wralda’s breath or spirit is used for what we call ''life force''. It would not make sense if Frya’s sisters had not recieved it. | |||
===Original Fryas text=== | ===Original Fryas text=== | ||
(file with MS fragment to be added) | (file with MS fragment to be added) | ||
There is no significant difference between the transcriptions (underlinings added): | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto" | |||
! Transcription Ottema, used by Sandbach !! Raw transcription Ott | |||
|- | |||
| Thâ hja blât <u>kêmon</u> || <span class="fryas">THÁ HJA BLÁT <u>KÉMON</u> | |||
|- | |||
| spisde Wr.alda <u>hjam</u> mith sina âdama; || <span class="fryas">SPISDE WR-ALDA <u>HJAM</u> MITH SINA ÁDAMA. | |||
|- | |||
| til thju tha mænneska an him skolde bvnden wêsa. || <span class="fryas">TILTHIU THA MÀNNESKA AN HIM SKOLDE BVNDEN WÉSA. | |||
|} | |||
===Translations=== | |||
====Dutch==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto" | |||
! Ottema 1872/1876* !! Jensma 2004 !! Ott (concept) | |||
|- | |||
| Toen deze te voorschijn <u>kwamen</u>, || Toen zij bloot <u>kwamen</u>, || Toen ze tevoorschijn <u>kwamen</u> | |||
|- | |||
| spijsde Wralda <u>haar</u> met zijnen adem, || spijsde Wralda <u>hen</u> met zijn adem, || voedde Wralda <u>hen</u> met zijn adem, | |||
|- | |||
| opdat de menschen aan hem zouden gebonden wezen. || opdat de mensen aan hem gebonden zouden zijn. || om de mensheid aan hem te binden. | |||
|} | |||
(*Translations Overwijn 1941 and 1951 did not significantly differ from Ottema’s. He also used archaic ''haar'' for plural feminine.) | |||
Notes: | |||
*''Kwamen'' is plural (they) ''came''. | |||
*On modern Dutch, the feminine pronoun ''haar'' is used for singular (2nd to 4th person), but in archaic use, it can also be plural ([https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/haar Wiktionary]). In late 19th century Dutch, this use will have been common, but Sandbach may not have been aware. | |||
====== | ====English==== | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto" | |||
! Sandbach 1876* !! Pierce 1973 !! Ott 2025 | |||
|- | |||
| When <span style="color:#ff0000">the last</span> came into existence, || When <u>they</u> came naked, || Upon <u>their</u> birth, | |||
|- | |||
| Wr-alda breathed his spirit upon <span style="color:#ff0000">her</span> || Wralda fed <u>them</u> with his breath, || Wralda fed <u>each of them</u> with his breath | |||
|- | |||
| in order that men might be bound to him. || to the (end) that mankind should be bound to him. || so that mankind should be bound to him. | |||
|} | |||
(*According to the title page, this was an “English version of Dr Ottema’s Dutch translation”. Raubenheimer’s 2010 version did not significantly differ from Sandbach’s.) | |||
Note: Sandbach changed Ottema’s ''deze ... kwamen'' (plural ''these ... came'') into ''the last ... came'' (apparant singular). | |||
====German==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto" | |||
! Wirth 1933 !! Menkens 2013 | |||
|- | |||
| Da sie bloß <u>kamen</u>, || Da sie nackt/bloß <u>kamen</u>, | |||
|- | |||
| speiste Wralda <u>sie</u> mit seinem Odem. || speiste Vvralda <u>sie</u> mit seinem Atem, | |||
|- | |||
| (part omitted) || auf daß die Menschen an ihn gebunden sein würden. | |||
|} | |||
Note: Both used unmistakable plurals. | |||
=== | ===HJAM is plural=== | ||
(to be added) | (sample fragments to be added) | ||
[[Category:Word Studies]] | [[Category:Word Studies]] | ||
Revision as of 15:39, 4 January 2025
ÁDAMA is used twice for breath and once (spelled ÁDAM) for scent. In the context of Wrlada’s breath it can be understood as life force.
Fragments
1. MS p. 6 — Our Primal History
THÁ HJA BLÁT KÉMON SPISDE WRALDA HJAM MITH SINA ÁDAMA
Upon their birth, Wralda fed each of them with his breath
(More literally: When they came bare/naked, Wralda fed them with his breath)
ÉR HJU MITH HIRA TOCHTIGE ÁDAMA THÀT LJUCHT BIWLATH
before she pollutes the light with her unchaste breath
3. MS p. 94 — Death of Adela
[THA] GÜRBÁM (...) OVER-FULDE LUFT MITH SINA LIAFLIKA ÁDAM
blossoming branches that filled the air with their sweet fragrance
(More literally: [the] scented tree (...) filled air with its lovely breath)
Same word in other languages
- adem – Dutch
- Atem – German
- ātmá – Sanskrit
Discussion of fragment 1. (Wralda’s breath)
Sandbach's erroneous interpretation of fragment 1 (as translated by Ottema) has led to a persistent misunderstanding among some readers. This misunderstanding will be cleared once and for all below.
If Sandbach’s change of the text (he replaced these/they by the last, referring to Frya alone) was correct, this would imply that only Frya’s descendants (tha mænneska/ men) were considered human. Also, the original would have been specific: SPISDE WR-ALDA FRYA MITH SINA ÁDAMA (Wralda fed Frya with his breath). Wralda’s breath or spirit is used for what we call life force. It would not make sense if Frya’s sisters had not recieved it.
Original Fryas text
(file with MS fragment to be added)
There is no significant difference between the transcriptions (underlinings added):
| Transcription Ottema, used by Sandbach | Raw transcription Ott |
|---|---|
| Thâ hja blât kêmon | THÁ HJA BLÁT KÉMON |
| spisde Wr.alda hjam mith sina âdama; | SPISDE WR-ALDA HJAM MITH SINA ÁDAMA. |
| til thju tha mænneska an him skolde bvnden wêsa. | TILTHIU THA MÀNNESKA AN HIM SKOLDE BVNDEN WÉSA. |
Translations
Dutch
| Ottema 1872/1876* | Jensma 2004 | Ott (concept) |
|---|---|---|
| Toen deze te voorschijn kwamen, | Toen zij bloot kwamen, | Toen ze tevoorschijn kwamen |
| spijsde Wralda haar met zijnen adem, | spijsde Wralda hen met zijn adem, | voedde Wralda hen met zijn adem, |
| opdat de menschen aan hem zouden gebonden wezen. | opdat de mensen aan hem gebonden zouden zijn. | om de mensheid aan hem te binden. |
(*Translations Overwijn 1941 and 1951 did not significantly differ from Ottema’s. He also used archaic haar for plural feminine.)
Notes:
- Kwamen is plural (they) came.
- On modern Dutch, the feminine pronoun haar is used for singular (2nd to 4th person), but in archaic use, it can also be plural (Wiktionary). In late 19th century Dutch, this use will have been common, but Sandbach may not have been aware.
English
| Sandbach 1876* | Pierce 1973 | Ott 2025 |
|---|---|---|
| When the last came into existence, | When they came naked, | Upon their birth, |
| Wr-alda breathed his spirit upon her | Wralda fed them with his breath, | Wralda fed each of them with his breath |
| in order that men might be bound to him. | to the (end) that mankind should be bound to him. | so that mankind should be bound to him. |
(*According to the title page, this was an “English version of Dr Ottema’s Dutch translation”. Raubenheimer’s 2010 version did not significantly differ from Sandbach’s.)
Note: Sandbach changed Ottema’s deze ... kwamen (plural these ... came) into the last ... came (apparant singular).
German
| Wirth 1933 | Menkens 2013 |
|---|---|
| Da sie bloß kamen, | Da sie nackt/bloß kamen, |
| speiste Wralda sie mit seinem Odem. | speiste Vvralda sie mit seinem Atem, |
| (part omitted) | auf daß die Menschen an ihn gebunden sein würden. |
Note: Both used unmistakable plurals.
HJAM is plural
(sample fragments to be added)