MÀGA, MÁGA, MÀGUM - Revision history

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	'''[[EN097.28 Teachings1\|97.28 Teachings1]]''' [<nowiki/>[[097]]~~/32~~]		'''[[EN097.28 Teachings1\|97.28 Teachings1]]''' [<nowiki/>[[097]]]

	<span class="fryas">~~THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA~~ TO WILLE MINRA <u>MÀGUM</u>.</span>		<span class="fryas">TO WILLE MINRA <u>MÀGUM</u>.</span>

	''~~But as this copy is mine, I will add them here~~ for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''		''for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''

	'''[[EN115.10 Swamped\|115.10 Swamped]]''' [<nowiki/>[[117]]~~/01~~]		'''[[EN115.10 Swamped\|115.10 Swamped]]''' [<nowiki/>[[117]]]

	<span class="fryas">THA STJURAR ~~ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK THÉR TO HONK WÉRON~~ HÉDE HJARA SELVA MITH <u>MÀGA</u> AND SIBBA VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.</span>		<span class="fryas">THA STJURAR ... HÉDE HJARA SELVA MITH <u>MÀGA</u> AND SIBBA VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.</span>

	<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.161):</u> ''The seafaring people ~~and other travellers who were at home~~ had saved themselves, their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations upon their ships.''		<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.161):</u> ''The seafaring people ... had saved themselves, their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations upon their ships.''

	<u>Ott 2023:</u> ''The ~~steersmen and other sailors who were home~~ had saved themselves together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin upon their ships.''		<u>Ott 2023:</u> ''The navigators ... had saved themselves together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin upon their ships.''

	'''[[EN117.20 Blacks\|117.20 Blacks]]''' [<nowiki/>[[118]]~~/02~~]		'''[[EN117.20 Blacks\|117.20 Blacks]]''' [<nowiki/>[[118]]]

	<span class="fryas">~~KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE.~~ OWERS NE ~~[5]~~ SKILUN HJA HJARA <u>MÁGA</u> NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.</span>		<span class="fryas">OWERS NE SKILUN HJA HJARA <u>MÁGA</u> NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.</span>

	''~~“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all? If so, make haste,~~ or else they will no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''		''or else they will no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.''

	==notes==		==notes==
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Word Studies]]		[[Category:Word Studies]]

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	==varieties==		==varieties==
	The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: <span class="fryas">MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA</span>.		The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: <span class="fryas">MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA</span> (edited to <span class="fryas">MÀGA</span> for consistency 21-8-24).

	==cognates==		==cognates==

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	==varieties==		==varieties==
	The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA.		The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: <span class="fryas">MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA</span>.

	==cognates==		==cognates==

	*maag (plur. magen) - Dutch (archaic)		*maag (plur. magen) - Dutch (archaic)
	*māg - Old Saxon, Old High German		*māg - Old Saxon, Old High German
	* mēch - Old Frisian		*mēch - Old Frisian
	*mæg - Old English		* mæg - Old English
	*mægð (all relations through male descent or on the father's side together) - Old English		*mægð (all relations through male descent or on the father's side together) - Old English
	*māgr (relative by marriage) - Old Norse		*māgr (relative by marriage) - Old Norse
	* mēgs (son-in-law) - Gothic		*mēgs (son-in-law) - Gothic

	==dictionaries ==		==dictionaries==

	*[https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/maag1 Etymologiebank/maag1]		*[https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/maag1 Etymologiebank/maag1]
	* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID39832&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/VMNW=maag]		*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID39832&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/VMNW=maag]
	*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=27377&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/MNW=maag]		*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=27377&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/MNW=maag]
	*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M038093&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/WNT=maag]		*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M038093&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/WNT=maag]
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	[[~~En 13e Teachings 1~~\|~~'''13e~~. ~~Primal Teachings 1~~''']] [<nowiki/>[[097]]/32]		'''[[EN097.28 Teachings1\|97.28 Teachings1]]''' [<nowiki/>[[097]]/32]

	#THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN		<span class="fryas">THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA TO WILLE MINRA <u>MÀGUM</u>.</span>
	#THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA
	#TO WILLE MINRA ~~'''~~MÀGUM~~'''~~.

	~~<u>Sandbach 1876 (p~~.~~135):</u>~~		''But as this copy is mine, I will add them here for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''

	# ''~~but this book is my own,~~''		'''[[EN115.10 Swamped\|115.10 Swamped]]''' [<nowiki/>[[117]]/01]
	~~#''so I will put it in''~~
	~~#''out of regard to my '''relations'''.~~''

	<u>~~Ott 2023:~~</u>		<span class="fryas">THA STJURAR ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK THÉR TO HONK WÉRON HÉDE HJARA SELVA MITH <u>MÀGA</u> AND SIBBA VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.</span>

	#''~~But as this copy is mine~~,''		<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.161):</u> ''The seafaring people and other travellers who were at home had saved themselves, their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations upon their ships.''
	#''~~I will add them here~~''
	#''~~for the sake of my~~ '''~~kinsmen~~'''.''

	~~[[En 14a Fryasland Swamped\|~~'''~~14a~~. ~~Fryasland Swamped'~~''~~]] [<nowiki/>[[117]]/01]~~		<u>Ott 2023:</u> ''The steersmen and other sailors who were home had saved themselves together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin upon their ships.''

	~~#THA STJURAR ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK.~~		'''[[EN117.20 Blacks\|117.20 Blacks]]''' [<nowiki/>[[118]]/02]
	~~#THÉR TO HONK WÉRON.~~
	~~#HÉDE HJARA SELVA~~
	~~#MITH~~ '''~~MÀGA~~''' ~~AND SIBBA~~
	~~#VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.~~

	<u>~~Sandbach 1876 (p~~.~~161):~~</u>		<span class="fryas">KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE. OWERS NE [5] SKILUN HJA HJARA <u>MÁGA</u> NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.</span>

	~~#''The seafaring people and other travellers''~~		''“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all? If so, make haste, or else they will no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''
	~~#''who were at home''~~
	~~#''had [*saved] themselves,''~~
	~~#''their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations'' {}~~
	~~# ''upon their ships [*].''~~

	~~<u>Ott 2023:</u>~~

	~~#''The steersmen and other sailors''~~
	~~#''who were home''~~
	~~#''had [saved] themselves''~~
	~~# ''together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin''~~
	~~#''upon their ships [*].''~~

	~~[[En 14b The Black Men\|'''14b. The Black Men''']] [<nowiki/>[[118]]/02]~~

	~~#KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM~~
	~~#THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE.~~
	~~#OWERS NE [5] SKILUN HJA~~
	~~#HJARA MÁGA NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.~~

	~~<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.163):</u>~~

	~~#''Can you send them all back to their country?''~~
	~~#''If so, then lose no time,''~~
	~~#''or they will''~~
	~~#''find no '''relatives''' alive.''~~

	~~<u>Ott 2023:</u>~~

	#''“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all?''
	~~#''~~If so, make haste,''
	~~#''~~or else they will''
	~~#''~~no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''

	==notes==		==notes==
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Word Studies]]		[[Category:Word Studies]]

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	==varieties==		==varieties==
	The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA.		The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA.

			==cognates==

			*maag (plur. magen) - Dutch (archaic)
			*māg - Old Saxon, Old High German
			* mēch - Old Frisian
			*mæg - Old English
			*mægð (all relations through male descent or on the father's side together) - Old English
			*māgr (relative by marriage) - Old Norse
			* mēgs (son-in-law) - Gothic

			==dictionaries ==

			*[https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/maag1 Etymologiebank/maag1]
			* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID39832&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/VMNW=maag]
			*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=27377&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/MNW=maag]
			*[https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M038093&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/WNT=maag]
			*[https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")

	==fragments==		==fragments==

	[[En 13e Teachings 1\|'''13e. Primal Teachings 1''']]		[[En 13e Teachings 1\|'''13e. Primal Teachings 1''']] [<nowiki/>[[097]]/32]

	~~[<nowiki/>[[097]]/32]~~		#THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN
			#THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA
	# THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN		#TO WILLE MINRA '''MÀGUM'''.
	# THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA
	# TO WILLE MINRA '''MÀGUM'''.

	<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.135):</u>		<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.135):</u>

	# ''but this book is my own,''		# ''but this book is my own,''
	# ''so I will put it in''		#''so I will put it in''
	# ''out of regard to my '''relations'''.''		#''out of regard to my '''relations'''.''

	<u>Ott 2023:</u>		<u>Ott 2023:</u>

	# ''But as this copy is mine,''		#''But as this copy is mine,''
	# ''I will add them here''		#''I will add them here''
	# ''for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''		#''for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''

	~~[[En 14a Fryasland Swamped\|'''14a. Fryasland Swamped''']]~~

	[<nowiki/>[[117]]/01]		[[En 14a Fryasland Swamped\|'''14a. Fryasland Swamped''']] [<nowiki/>[[117]]/01]

	# THA STJURAR ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK.		#THA STJURAR ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK.
	# THÉR TO HONK WÉRON.		#THÉR TO HONK WÉRON.
	# HÉDE HJARA SELVA		#HÉDE HJARA SELVA
	# MITH '''MÀGA''' AND SIBBA		#MITH '''MÀGA''' AND SIBBA
	# VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.		#VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.

	<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.161):</u>		<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.161):</u>

	# ''The seafaring people and other travellers''		#''The seafaring people and other travellers''
	# ''who were at home''		#''who were at home''
	# ''had [*saved] themselves,''		#''had [*saved] themselves,''
	# ''their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations'' {}		#''their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations'' {}
	# ''upon their ships [*].''		# ''upon their ships [*].''

	<u>Ott 2023:</u>		<u>Ott 2023:</u>

	# ''The steersmen and other sailors''		#''The steersmen and other sailors''
	# ''who were home''		#''who were home''
	# ''had [saved] themselves''		#''had [saved] themselves''
	# ''together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin''		# ''together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin''
	# ''upon their ships [*].''		#''upon their ships [*].''

	[[En 14b The Black Men\|'''14b. The Black Men''']]		[[En 14b The Black Men\|'''14b. The Black Men''']] [<nowiki/>[[118]]/02]

	~~[<nowiki/>[[118]]/02]~~		#KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM
			#THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE.
	# KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM		#OWERS NE [5] SKILUN HJA
	# THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE.		#HJARA MÁGA NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.
	# OWERS NE [5] SKILUN HJA
	# HJARA MÁGA NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.

	<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.163):</u>		<u>Sandbach 1876 (p.163):</u>

	# ''Can you send them all back to their country?''		#''Can you send them all back to their country?''
	# ''If so, then lose no time,''		#''If so, then lose no time,''
	# ''or they will''		#''or they will''
	# ''find no '''relatives''' alive.''		#''find no '''relatives''' alive.''

	<u>Ott 2023:</u>		<u>Ott 2023:</u>

	# ''“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all?''		#''“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all?''
	# ''If so, make haste,''		#''If so, make haste,''
	# ''or else they will''		#''or else they will''
	# ''no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''		#''no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''

	~~==cognates==~~

	* maag (plur. magen) - Dutch (archaic)
	* māg - Old Saxon, Old High German
	* mēch - Old Frisian
	* mæg - Old English
	* mægð (all relations through male descent or on the father's side together) - Old English
	* māgr (relative by marriage) - Old Norse
	* mēgs (son-in-law) - Gothic

	~~==other sources==~~

	* [https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/maag1 Etymologiebank/maag1]
	* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID39832&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/VMNW=maag]
	* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=27377&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/MNW=maag]
	* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M038093&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/WNT=maag]
	* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")

	==notes==		==notes==
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Word Studies]]		[[Category:Word Studies]]

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	* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")		* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")

	==~~Notes~~==		==notes==
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Word Studies]]		[[Category:Word Studies]]

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	* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")		* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")

			==Notes==
			<references />
	[[Category:Word Studies]]		[[Category:Word Studies]]

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==varieties==
The word (plural noun), meaning 'relatives'/'kinsmen' is used three times, all spelled differently: MÀGUM, MÀGA, MÁGA.

==fragments==

[[En 13e Teachings 1|'''13e. Primal Teachings 1''']]

[<nowiki/>[[097]]/32]

# THA THIT BOK IS MIN AIN
# THÉRVMBE WIL IK HJA THÉR INNA SETTA
# TO WILLE MINRA '''MÀGUM'''.

Sandbach 1876 (p.135):

# ''but this book is my own,''
# ''so I will put it in''
# ''out of regard to my '''relations'''.''

Ott 2023:

# ''But as this copy is mine,''
# ''I will add them here''
# ''for the sake of my '''kinsmen'''.''

[[En 14a Fryasland Swamped|'''14a. Fryasland Swamped''']]

[<nowiki/>[[117]]/01]

# THA STJURAR ÀND ÔR FÁRANDE FOLK.
# THÉR TO HONK WÉRON.
# HÉDE HJARA SELVA
# MITH '''MÀGA''' AND SIBBA
# VPPIRA SKEPUM HRET.

Sandbach 1876 (p.161):

# ''The seafaring people and other travellers''
# ''who were at home''
# ''had [*saved] themselves,''
# ''their '''goods'''''<ref>''goods'' was a mistake. Ottema had '''''magen''' en bloedverwanten''</ref>'', and their relations'' {}
# ''upon their ships [*].''

Ott 2023:

# ''The steersmen and other sailors''
# ''who were home''
# ''had [saved] themselves''
# ''together with their '''close relatives''' and other kin''
# ''upon their ships [*].''

[[En 14b The Black Men|'''14b. The Black Men''']]

[<nowiki/>[[118]]/02]

# KÀNST ÉN ÀND ÔR TOBEK FORA NÉI HJRA LÁNDUM
# THÀN ÁCHSTE SPOD TO MÁKJANDE.
# OWERS NE [5] SKILUN HJA
# HJARA MÁGA NAVT WITHER NE FINDA.

Sandbach 1876 (p.163):

# ''Can you send them all back to their country?''
# ''If so, then lose no time,''
# ''or they will''
# ''find no '''relatives''' alive.''

Ott 2023:

# ''“Can you take them back to their lands, one and all?''
# ''If so, make haste,''
# ''or else they will''
# ''no longer be able to find back their '''relatives'''.”''

==cognates==

* maag (plur. magen) - Dutch (archaic)
* māg - Old Saxon, Old High German
* mēch - Old Frisian
* mæg - Old English
* mægð (all relations through male descent or on the father's side together) - Old English
* māgr (relative by marriage) - Old Norse
* mēgs (son-in-law) - Gothic

==other sources==

* [https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/maag1 Etymologiebank/maag1]
* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID39832&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/VMNW=maag]
* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=27377&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/MNW=maag]
* [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M038093&lemmodern=maag&domein=0&conc=true gtb.ivdnt.org/WNT=maag]
* [https://www.koeblergerhard.de/afries/afries_m.html Koebler Oldfrisian dictionary] ("mēch")

[[Category:Word Studies]]